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April 30, 2004

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Misspent One

A week or two ago SI had a ridiculously snarky comment about something (the NFL draft?) and they related it to the Bush tax cuts, meaning: they were for the wealthy, they weren't beneficial, they were actually harmful, and Bush is stupid.

O57S

I realize the nature of politics is satisfying one's personal agenda. That said, I believe it is cowardly to attack the having of an agenda as opposed to the substance therein. A website called forward edge of freedom is surely filled with individuals who have "agendas". Mr. Wiley is(was) a very creative thoughtful journalist in the vein of Hunter S Thompson, who sheds the restraints of textbook journalism in order to convey an intensity and emotion not found in traditional columns. Im sure a backer of the GOP Officer in Chief could let a few grammatical flaws slide, besides his goal is to illicit a response much like my goal in writing this. It is not simply to see our own words in print...

Freedom's Edge

An interesting point, and I would agree that Mr. Wiley is of the same ilk as Mr. Thompson. My point which is addressed in my Welcome to the Site is that there are few instances where "sports political views" are anything but one side of the political fence.

Perhaps I did not write well enough to show my outrage was with his article and not his grammatical miscues. Either way, thanks very much for the response, and I hope you visit the FEF again!

The Misspent Life

Hunter S. Thompson. Heh.

United We Stand

Having just written an article where I used Mr. Wiley's name in the same sentence with Trev Alberts and other ESPN talking heads who did not let the facts stand in the way of blurting out their inept opinions, I feel a little vindicated that I'm not the only person who did not like what Mr. Wiley had to say.
At the same time, I felt some sense of loss yesterday when I learned of his death.

My problem with him was his basic ignorance of facts. I believe, if Freedom's Edge read Mr. Wiley's archives, he might remember the rant he wrote about the Nolan Richardson debacle. It is an embarrassment that Richardson's parting with the University of Arkansas came to what it did. But it did. For someone like Wiley to step in and throw fuel on the fire with statements that were clearly erroneous was completely senseless and irresponsible.
For that, I did not care at all for Mr. Wiley.

As for the Manhattan College girl: The mere fact that Wiley chose to defend her is a reflection of both of them. He sought out causes that were divisive. She chose to stand out in a divisive manner and put her own personal feelings above those of our country.

Sure, the First Amendment gives her that right.
But tell me what she really solved. I do hope in 5, 10, 20 years and again at the end of her life, someone calls to interview her about her self-appointed protest.

At some point, I can only hope she feels some regret or shame about the legacy she left behind.
It's the same legacy Wiley has left behind.

Layla

"the nation of the flag that she despises"

I think it's a pretty lazy conclusion to draw: that protesting a war is the same as despising your country, being unpatriotic, or say, undermining the morale of our troops.

Should she be applauded for her stand? I don't think so. But should her decision to morally object to war earn her disrespect and anger? No, I don't think so, either.

Equating political dissent with patriotic dissent is wrong and lazy. A person has just as much right to support a war as they have to oppose it. Opposing war does not equal opposing partiotism. Opposing a war does not mean you do not appreciate and support the brave soldiers who serve.

War is no trivial matter, and it is a shame to trivialize its discussion by accusing anti war protesters of "despising" their country.

TGW

I have to humbly disagree...Wiley was one of the best writers in the busiess - and not just sports. The only analogy for Wiley that makes sense to me is music. Wiley was the equivalent of a jazz virtuoso in a profession filled with others playing pop, rock, country, whatever. His writing - especially on Page 2 - was a personal style all his own. Riffs and meanderings that set him apart from the crowd. Now, you don't have to like jazz. I don't like jazz. But, that shouldn't stop you from saying, once you hear someone with talent playing it, "damn, he can bring it." Wiley brought strong stuff...

That's my assessment of how he said what he said. When it comes to what he was saying, well...let's just say I didn't have to agree with it to realize it was still worthwhile. But, then again, I like to read stuff from articulate smart people who see the world differently than me. Sometimes they change my mind. But usually they serve to remind me that other opinions and thoughts are valid. That tolerance and open mindedness are traits I should strive for. That's why a self-professed liberal like myself likes to read George Will, Charles Krauthammer, Bill Safire, Ann Coulter, etc. Okay, maybe I'm lying about Coulter.

Thanks for the forum and please believe I respect everyone's opinion...

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